Re: Webworks question

[Michael Richards <michaelr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

AAAARGH! The problems of trying to help someone when you're in a hurry!

I must admit, I didn't read your question properly!

The problem is HTML and not WWP. In HTML, nothing will happen until the form is
submitted and you can't have a clickable link running from the form. That's why
the hyperlink won't work. What you have to do instead for a form to work, is
have a program (the "action") to crunch the data. What you can do is have the
action display a page with the user's answer and then the real answer or a link
to the place in the documentation that gives the answer. (For this you need
perl, PHP or whatever) OR, have a cheat link NEXT TO THE BOX on the orginal
page, taking the user to the answer.

My use of embedded HTML is still relevent for doing this. I can think of other
work arounds using Frame hyptext links as well.

But the fact remains, you CAN'T have a link on a form box. You have to have an
"action" instead!

Gotta go now.


Michael Richards wrote:
> 
> This can be handled not only by WWP but also by the Frame Save As HTML....
> but by using conditional text.
> 
> Here, I assume that you are producing 2 versions -- pdf and HTML. I cannot
> recommend using the forms in pdf becuase, for all practical purposes, these must
> be generated in the Exchange (3.x terminology) /Acrobat (4.x terminology)
> program. You can do them with pdfmarks but the syntax of form-related pdf markes
> is extremely complex: you really don't want to know and they would be impossible
> to maintain.
> 
> The principal is that you have to embed the html form commands in some
> condition, which we'll call "html". In WWP, the html can either be as straight
> out conditional text or as one of those special html markers.
> 
> I would recommend the former, simply because you need to have carriage returns
> in your html and the html markers used by WWP (or any marker!) doesn't allow for
> this. Use the "passthrough html" option in WWP to allow your html condition to
> do just that.
> 
> Then, voila!, you get your HTML form fields appearing.
> 
> You can also use this technique to get dynamic data to appear in Frame derived
> pages, but this is another topic, for which I don't have time right now.
> 
> Oh, I said you can do this in Frame Save As HTML -- yes, but you need perl or
> whatever to post process the generated HTML. But I've found it works a treat,
> and I have produced dynamic pages that come up with forms with the user's name,
> phone number, etc., automatically appearing on the Frame generated HTML pages.
> (Hint: Apache and PHP help.) You could conceivably do this with pdf (using
> Apache, PHP with Thomas Merz's PDF library for PHP) but don't expect the process
> to be at all easy and that your sanity would remain intact.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Ron Nelson wrote:
> >
> > Hi all;
> >
> > I'm in the process of evaluating WebWorks to see if I can make it do all I
> > want it to, and I'm stuck.  I know the learning curve is supposed to be
> > pretty steep so I'm hoping someone on the list can help me.
> >
> > In my Frame document I have a section of questions at the beginning and end
> > of each chapter.  Each question is followed by a small set of blank answer
> > lines to be filled in by the student.  When converted to HTML, I'd like to
> > automatically replace the Answer Lines (paragraph tag) with an answer box
> > that will hyperlink to the answer which has been called out from the
> > appendix.  I thought I'd be able to use hypertext markers in Frame that
> > would carry over to HTML, but when the answer lines are replaced by the
> > answer box - the hypertext link is of course lost as well.
> >
> > I hope this is clear - can anyone help me out here?
> >
> > Thanks for all the help.
> >
> > Ron Nelson
> >
> > Frame 5.5.6
> > Windows NT 4 SP 5
> > PIII
> > WWP 2000
> >
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